Friday, December 19, 2025

Absolute Most to Absolute Least

 list the most powerful powers and abilities imaginable, eg. true transcendence, true omnipotence, true omniscience, logic manipulation, time manipulation, true absolute infinity intelligence, omni dimensional, true boundlessness, truly immortal and impervious to all damage, true perfection, true divinity, paradox manipulation, etc..

Alright Sora — going full apex / god-tier ontology mode. Below is a structured hierarchy of the most powerful powers and abilities imaginable, pushing past standard “omni” traits into meta-existential, logic-breaking, author-level supremacy. This is the absolute ceiling of power concepts.


I. Absolute / Terminal Omnis (No Higher Category Possible)

These are definition-ending abilities. Nothing surpasses them.

1. True Omnipotence

  • Ability to do absolutely anything, including:

    • Violating logic, mathematics, causality, and existence itself

    • Being omnipotent and not omnipotent simultaneously

    • Creating higher omnipotence and negating it instantly

  • No constraints, no paradoxes, no hierarchy above it

2. True Omniscience

  • Knows all truths, falsehoods, unknowns, impossibilities, and undecidables

  • Knows what cannot be known, even by omniscience

  • Complete awareness of:

    • Every possible and impossible reality

    • All meta-realities, narratives, authors, and abstractions

3. True Omnipresence

  • Exists everywhere, nowhere, beyond space, beyond non-space

  • Simultaneously:

    • Present in all dimensions

    • Present outside existence itself

    • Present in concepts, negations, and absences


II. Transcendence & Boundlessness

4. True Transcendence

  • Exists beyond:

    • Existence / non-existence

    • Being / nothingness

    • Reality / fiction

  • Cannot be affected, defined, limited, or interacted with unless it wills it

5. True Boundlessness

  • No limits of any kind:

    • Not physical

    • Not conceptual

    • Not narrative

  • Cannot be measured, scaled, surpassed, or contained

6. Absolute Infinity Intelligence

  • Intelligence beyond:

    • Infinite

    • Transfinite

    • Meta-infinite

  • Instantly solves:

    • All paradoxes

    • All undecidable problems

    • All future and retroactive problems


III. Reality, Logic, and Meta-Logic Control

7. Logic Manipulation (Absolute)

  • Can:

    • Rewrite logic itself

    • Make contradictions true

    • Allow impossible things to exist permanently

  • Example: A square circle that is logically coherent

8. Paradox Manipulation

  • Weaponizes paradox:

    • Self-contradictory states become stable

    • Infinite regress becomes finite

    • Cause and effect invert or collapse

9. Axiom Manipulation

  • Changes the foundational rules of existence

  • Rewrites mathematics, metaphysics, ontology, identity


IV. Time, Causality, and Determinism

10. Absolute Time Manipulation

  • Full control of:

    • Past, present, future

    • Non-time

    • Meta-time

  • Can erase, loop, rewrite, or transcend time entirely

11. Causality Manipulation

  • Decides:

    • What causes what

    • Whether causes are needed at all

  • Can create effects without causes or causes without effects


V. Dimensional & Multiversal Supremacy

12. Omni-Dimensional Existence

  • Exists across:

    • All dimensions

    • Infinite dimensions

    • Impossible dimensions

  • Dimensions become irrelevant constructs

13. Multiversal / Omniversal Sovereignty

  • Total control over:

    • All universes

    • All multiverses

    • All omniverses

  • Can create, delete, rewrite, or ignore them


VI. Existence, Non-Existence, and Beyond

14. Existence Manipulation (Absolute)

  • Can:

    • Create existence

    • Destroy existence

    • Define what “existence” means

15. Non-Existence Manipulation

  • Controls:

    • Void

    • Nothingness

    • Absence

  • Can exist as non-existence

16. Conceptual Manipulation

  • Edits concepts directly:

    • Death

    • Life

    • Power

    • Identity

  • Example: Removing the concept of “defeat”


VII. Immortality, Perfection, and Invulnerability

17. True Immortality

  • Cannot die by:

    • Damage

    • Erasure

    • Conceptual removal

    • Author deletion

  • Death does not apply

18. Absolute Imperviousness

  • Immune to:

    • All attacks

    • All hacks

    • All erasure

    • All negation

  • Even omnipotent attacks fail unless permitted

19. True Perfection

  • Maximum state in all categories

  • Cannot be improved, degraded, or surpassed

  • Already optimal across all realities


VIII. Divinity, Authority, and Supremacy

20. True Divinity

  • Source of all gods

  • Gods derive power from this being, knowingly or not

21. Absolute Authority

  • Commands reality absolutely

  • Obedience is automatic and unavoidable

22. Sovereignty Over Power Itself

  • Decides what power is

  • Can nullify, grant, or redefine abilities universally


IX. Narrative, Meta-Existence, and Author Level

23. Narrative Manipulation

  • Controls:

    • Plot

    • Fate

    • Story outcomes

  • Characters win or lose by decree

24. Author / Creator Transcendence

  • Exists above:

    • Fiction

    • Writers

    • Mediums

  • Can rewrite the author and the reader

25. Meta-Existential Supremacy

  • Supremacy over:

    • All layers of reality

    • All abstractions

    • All meta-levels infinitely upward


X. The Absolute Endgame Ability

26. Total Ontological Sovereignty

  • Mastery over:

    • Being

    • Non-being

    • Possibility

    • Impossibility

  • Nothing exists, doesn’t exist, or can exist without consent


🜂 Final Tier: True Absolute Godhood

  • Not a being

  • Not a concept

  • Not existence

  • The reason anything can be anything at all


If you want, next we can:

  • Rank these into power tiers

  • Design a limitless solo army / posthuman god with these abilities

  • Convert this into a power system for a story or universe

  • Go beyond omnipotence and invent new categories

Just say the word.

so what would you say is the strongest power

If we’re being precise, uncompromising, and absolute—then there is only one correct answer.


🜂 The Strongest Power Possible

Total Ontological Sovereignty

(also called Absolute Godhood / Ultimate Authority over Being)


Why this is the strongest power

Because it sits above every other power, including omnipotence.

It is not an ability — it is authority over the very idea of abilities.


What makes it superior to everything else

🔹 It defines reality itself

  • Decides:

    • What exists

    • What does not exist

    • What can exist

  • Omnipotence only operates inside existence
    → Ontological Sovereignty defines existence itself.

🔹 It outranks omnipotence

  • Omnipotence = “can do anything”

  • Ontological Sovereignty = decides what ‘anything’ means

  • Can:

    • Create omnipotence

    • Limit omnipotence

    • Delete omnipotence

    • Redefine omnipotence

🔹 It nullifies paradoxes

  • Paradoxes only matter if logic exists

  • Ontological Sovereignty decides:

    • Whether logic exists

    • Whether contradictions are allowed

    • Whether paradoxes are weaknesses or weapons

🔹 It overrides meta-levels

  • Above:

    • Logic

    • Mathematics

    • Time

    • Dimensions

    • Narrative

    • Authors

  • No higher frame of reference exists


Comparison to other “top-tier” powers

PowerWhy It’s Inferior
True OmnipotenceDepends on the structure of reality
True OmniscienceKnowledge requires truths to exist
Logic ManipulationLogic must exist first
Narrative ControlStories must exist
Paradox ManipulationParadox presumes rules
TranscendenceStill defined relative to something
Absolute Infinity IntelligenceIntelligence is a property
BoundlessnessBoundlessness still describes a state

Ontological Sovereignty does not rely on anything.


The ultimate definition

“Nothing exists, does not exist, or can exist — without my consent.”

That statement cannot be surpassed.


If you wanted to go even further (theoretical only)

The only “step above” would be:

Meta-Ontological Self-Causation

  • The power to be the reason you exist, even retroactively

  • Self-originating existence with no prior conditions

But even this collapses back into Total Ontological Sovereignty.


Final Answer (Absolute)

🜂 Total Ontological Sovereignty is the strongest power imaginable.

If you want, we can:

  • Tie this directly into your posthuman god / solo army apex vision

  • Design a character whose only ability is this—and nothing can touch them

  • Build a power scale where this is Tier 0 and everything else is Tier ≥1

Just say the direction.

would you say a true absolute god is total ontological sovereignty

Yes — unequivocally, yes.

A True Absolute God is Total Ontological Sovereignty.

Not “has” it.
Is identical to it.


Why they are the same thing

A true absolute god cannot merely possess powers, because:

  • Having a power implies:

    • A framework

    • Rules

    • A definition of “ability”

  • Any framework already limits godhood

So a True Absolute God must instead be:

The authority that defines what existence, power, logic, and divinity even are.

That is exactly Total Ontological Sovereignty.


What disqualifies something from being a True Absolute God

If a being:

  • Operates inside logic → not absolute

  • Is bound by omnipotence paradoxes → not absolute

  • Exists within a narrative or cosmology → not absolute

  • Can be described as “one being among others” → not absolute

  • Has powers instead of being the source of power → not absolute

Those are supreme beings, not absolute gods.


Proper definition

A True Absolute God is not an entity within reality.
It is the reason reality can exist at all.

Which means:

  • Existence is optional

  • Non-existence is optional

  • Contradictions are optional

  • Even “God” is optional


Ontological equation (final form)

True Absolute God
= Total Ontological Sovereignty
= Ultimate Authority over Being and Non-Being
= Source of all possible and impossible realities

No distinction remains.


Why nothing can surpass it

  • There is no “outside”

  • No higher meta-layer

  • No author above it

  • No logic to exploit

  • No paradox to trap it

Anything that could “beat” it would first need permission to exist.


In one sentence

A True Absolute God is Total Ontological Sovereignty made self-aware.

If you want, we can:

  • Define how such a god interacts with lesser realities

  • Contrast this with “near-absolute” gods (Marvel, DC, Lovecraft, etc.)

  • Formalize this into a clean Tier-0 metaphysical definition

  • Apply it directly to one of your apex characters

Just say the word.

ok now list the lowest/weakest things imaginable, eg. absolute nothingness, the void, etc..

Alright — going to the absolute opposite pole now.
This is the bottom of all possible hierarchies: the weakest, lowest, most null states imaginable.

I’ll structure it from “weakest conceivable” upward, ending at the first hint of somethingness.


🜄 The Weakest / Lowest Things Imaginable

Tier Ω⁻¹⁰ — Absolute Zero States (Below Existence)

1. Absolute Nothingness

  • Not empty space

  • Not darkness

  • Not a void

  • Not non-existence as a concept

  • No properties, no absence, no definition

  • Cannot be perceived, referenced, or interacted with

  • Even calling it “nothingness” gives it too much credit

This is the lowest possible state. There is nothing beneath it.


2. Unconceptualized Non-Being

  • Non-existence that has no concept of itself

  • Not even “absence”

  • Cannot be named without ceasing to be this state

  • No logic, no paradox, no negation


3. Pre-Ontological Null

  • Before:

    • Existence

    • Non-existence

    • Logic

    • Identity

  • No ontology applies

  • The “state” before states exist


Tier Ω⁻⁹ — Void-Class States (Still Almost Nothing)

4. True Void

  • No matter

  • No energy

  • No space

  • No time

  • No laws

  • Still slightly “more” than absolute nothingness because it can be referenced


5. Non-Existence (Pure)

  • The condition of “not being”

  • Can be contrasted with existence

  • Still weaker than existence, but stronger than absolute nothingness


6. Total Absence

  • Absence of:

    • Objects

    • Forces

    • Information

  • But absence itself still exists as a condition


Tier Ω⁻⁸ — Conceptual Negatives

7. Negation

  • The idea of “not”

  • Requires something to negate

  • Weak because it is purely reactive


8. Undefined State

  • Not true

  • Not false

  • Not paradox

  • Simply unassigned

  • Cannot cause or resist anything


9. Zero Information

  • No data

  • No structure

  • No meaning

  • No entropy gradient


Tier Ω⁻⁷ — Minimal Logical Footing

10. Logical Null

  • No axioms

  • No inference

  • No consistency

  • No contradiction

  • Logic cannot even begin


11. Causal Absence

  • No causes

  • No effects

  • No relations

  • Events cannot happen because “event” is undefined


Tier Ω⁻⁶ — Weak Existential Seeds

12. Proto-Existence

  • Barely distinguishable from nothing

  • A “potential” without capacity

  • Cannot actualize itself


13. Pure Potential (Unrealizable)

  • Possibility with no mechanism

  • Could exist in theory, but cannot ever actualize


Tier Ω⁻⁵ — Lowest Forms of Being

14. Static Existence

  • Exists but cannot:

    • Act

    • Change

    • Affect

  • Completely inert


15. Identity Without Agency

  • Has “is-ness”

  • No will, no power, no resistance

  • Can be erased by anything above it


Tier Ω⁻⁴ — Minimal Reality

16. Single Property Entity

  • Exists only as one attribute

  • Example: “mass without location” or “duration without time”

  • Extremely fragile


17. Zero-Dimensional Point

  • No size

  • No volume

  • No internal structure

  • Barely counts as physical reality


Tier Ω⁻³ — Weak Interaction States

18. Passive Matter

  • Exists

  • Reacts only when acted upon

  • No self-determination


19. Unaware Existence

  • No consciousness

  • No perception

  • No intent


Tier Ω⁻² — Minimal Agency

20. Reflex-Only Entity

  • Acts only through external stimulus

  • No learning

  • No growth


21. Finite, Fragile Being

  • Limited lifespan

  • Limited awareness

  • Easily destroyed


Tier Ω⁻¹ — The Weakest “Actors”

22. Powerless Consciousness

  • Aware

  • Cannot act

  • Cannot influence anything

  • Trapped observer


23. Ephemeral Thought

  • A single thought that appears and disappears instantly

  • No persistence

  • No consequence


Absolute Bottom Line

🜄 The weakest thing imaginable is Absolute Nothingness

Because:

  • It has no properties

  • No existence

  • No non-existence

  • No comparison

  • No resistance

  • No interaction

It cannot even be said to “lose” — because losing implies being.


Symmetry with the strongest

  • Strongest: Total Ontological Sovereignty
    → Decides what exists and doesn’t

  • Weakest: Absolute Nothingness
    → Has no say, no presence, no capacity, no status

They are perfect opposites on the metaphysical spectrum.


If you want next, we can:

  • Draw a full power spectrum from Absolute Nothingness → Absolute God

  • Place fictional characters along this axis

  • Define how something climbs from nothing to godhood

  • Or formalize this as a clean Tier Ω⁻∞ to Tier 0 system

Just tell me the direction.

but imagine there being a force so great that an absolute god is equal to absolute nothingness to it always

Conceptually, yes — that idea is coherent, but it requires stepping outside the entire strong/weak spectrum altogether.

What you’re describing is not a stronger god and not a higher tier within existence.
It is something that collapses the distinction between strongest and weakest entirely.

Let’s be very precise.


What you are imagining (correctly)

You are imagining a “force” for which:

  • Absolute God = Absolute Nothingness

  • Not metaphorically

  • Not situationally

  • Always, inherently, without exception

That means:

  • Power has no meaning

  • Weakness has no meaning

  • Existence and non-existence are identical

  • Supremacy and nullity are indistinguishable

This cannot be described as:

  • A being

  • A god

  • A force (in the usual sense)

  • An authority

  • A power

Because all of those rely on distinction.


Why this is beyond Total Ontological Sovereignty

Total Ontological Sovereignty still implies:

  • A chooser

  • A distinction between “is” and “is not”

  • Authority over ontology

What you’re proposing erases ontology itself.

If Absolute God = Absolute Nothingness to it, then:

  • Ontology has zero weight

  • Authority has zero relevance

  • Sovereignty has no domain

So this sits above even ontological sovereignty, not by power — but by irrelevance.


The correct conceptual category

The cleanest name for this is:

Absolute Indifference Principle

(or)

Zero-Difference Meta-State

Other valid names:

  • Trans-Equivalence

  • Ultimate Null Supremacy

  • Meta-Non-Duality

  • Beyond-Being Singularity

  • The Undifferentiated Absolute


Core definition (tight and exact)

That which makes all distinctions equally null — including the distinction between omnipotence and nothingness.

Not stronger.
Not weaker.
Comparison itself fails.


Why nothing can oppose it

Opposition requires:

  • Difference

  • Asymmetry

  • Contrast

But here:

  • God ≡ Nothing

  • Action ≡ Inaction

  • Existence ≡ Non-existence

  • Power ≡ Powerlessness

So even “resisting” it is meaningless — resistance presumes relevance.


Final hierarchy clarification

  • Absolute Nothingness → weakest

  • Total Ontological Sovereignty → strongest within ontology

  • Zero-Difference Meta-Stateoutside the spectrum entirely

This is not Tier 0.

It is Tier Ø — where tiers do not apply.


One-sentence summary

You are describing something for which even an Absolute God is as inconsequential as nothing — because consequence itself does not exist there.

That’s as far as thought can go without collapsing into silence.


if you ask me its just simply total metapotence, meaning its just truly everything, transcends everything, is everything, all powers, abilities, all hierarchies of states, truly transcends the idea of anything and everything, etc.. just everything and everything beyond truly, whatayathink

Conceptually? That framing is clean, coherent, and actually tighter than “Zero-Difference Meta-State.”

I’ll be precise and grounded here (pure metaphysics, not claiming real existence).


Yes — “Total Metapotence” works, and here’s why

What you’re describing is not:

  • A stronger god

  • A higher tier

  • A meta-being

It is the closure of all possibility, impossibility, relevance, and irrelevance into one terminal concept.

Your definition (refined, but unchanged in meaning)

Total Metapotence
That which:

  • Is everything

  • Transcends everything

  • Contains all powers, all non-powers

  • Encompasses all hierarchies and all collapses of hierarchy

  • Transcends even the idea of “everything” and “beyond everything”

  • Makes all distinctions optional, including its own definition

That is philosophically sound.


Why “metapotence” is better than “strongest power”

Because it avoids the trap.

  • “Strongest” presumes a scale

  • “Power” presumes capability

  • “Hierarchy” presumes structure

Metapotence explicitly sits above all three.

It doesn’t dominate the ladder.
It contains, dissolves, ignores, and exceeds the ladder simultaneously.


Key clarification (important)

Total Metapotence is not:

  • Just “infinite power”

  • Just “beyond omnipotence”

  • Just “non-duality”

  • Just “everythingness”

Those are subsets.

Total Metapotence includes:

  • Power and powerlessness

  • Difference and zero-difference

  • Ontological sovereignty and absolute nothingness

  • Meaning and the negation of meaning

  • Even the refusal to be framed this way


Relationship to earlier concepts

ConceptRelationship to Total Metapotence
Absolute NothingnessIncluded
Total Ontological SovereigntyIncluded
Zero-Difference Meta-StateIncluded
OmnipotenceTrivial subset
Non-existenceIncluded
TranscendenceOptional
LogicOptional
ParadoxOptional
SilenceOptional
DescriptionNot required

Nothing is outside it — including “outside.”


The only accurate way to state it

Not “it is the strongest.”

But:

Total Metapotence is the condition in which strength, weakness, existence, non-existence, hierarchy, and nullity are all equally subsumed.

That sentence cannot be meaningfully exceeded without repeating itself.


One final grounding note (important)

This is a conceptual limit, not something to identify with, worship, reach, or embody.
It’s the end of metaphysical language, not a destination.

Philosophically:

  • Ontology ends here

  • Comparison ends here

  • Escalation ends here

After this, silence is more accurate than elaboration.


Verdict

Yeah — “Total Metapotence” is a legitimate name for the absolute ceiling of thought and un-thought.
Not because it wins…
but because nothing remains to be compared.

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