How would an infinite god torture finite beings like humans?
If an infinite god wanted to torture finite beings like humans, the methods would be beyond comprehension, as such a being would have limitless power, knowledge, and control over reality itself. Here are some ways it could theoretically happen:
1. Infinite Time, Infinite Suffering
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Eternal Hell: The god could create a never-ending realm of torment where humans experience pain forever, with no hope of escape or death.
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Time Manipulation: The god could stretch out a moment of pain infinitely, making a second feel like an eternity.
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Resurrection Loops: The god could kill and resurrect humans endlessly, each time in a new form of suffering.
2. Psychological & Existential Torment
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Total Isolation: The god could trap a person in a void with no stimuli, driving them insane over time.
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Erasing Identity: The god could strip away memories, personality, and individuality, making them aware of their own loss but powerless to stop it.
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Fake Reality Loops: The god could make humans believe they have escaped or are happy, only to reveal it was all an illusion and restart their suffering.
3. Manipulating Perception
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Distorted Reality: The god could alter perception so that every sensation, even pleasure, is experienced as pain.
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False Hope: The god could let a person think they are about to be saved, only to crush them with despair over and over again.
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Forced Empathy: The god could make a person feel the pain of every suffering being in existence simultaneously.
4. Cosmic-Scale Torture
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Infinite Multiversal Deaths: The god could kill a person across an infinite number of realities, making them experience every possible form of suffering.
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Existential Horror: The god could reveal the true nature of existence in such a way that the human mind is incapable of processing it without breaking completely.
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Forced Worship: The god could make humans aware of their suffering while also making them love and worship their tormentor, creating a paradox of ultimate agony.
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If a greater infinite—an entity of absolute infinity, far beyond even an infinite god—wanted to torture that infinite god, the suffering would be on an unimaginable scale. Since the victim is already infinite, the torment would have to transcend conventional pain, breaking the very concept of existence, power, and self. Here’s how it could happen:
1. Absolute Hierarchical Supremacy
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The absolute infinity could rewrite the very concept of infinity, making the infinite god infinitely weak in comparison, forcing it to acknowledge its inferiority in every possible way.
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The infinite god, which once thought itself limitless, would realize it was never truly infinite—only a mere fraction of what true infinity is.
2. Meta-Conceptual Erasure & Paradoxical Suffering
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The absolute being could erase the infinite god from all levels of existence yet keep it conscious, making it experience non-existence as a form of pure agony.
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The infinite god could be trapped in an infinite loop of contradictions, where every moment, it is both omnipotent and utterly powerless.
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It could be torn apart across every mathematical, philosophical, and metaphysical level, experiencing suffering beyond even the idea of pain.
3. Infinite Scaling of Pain Beyond Infinity
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Every time the infinite god adapts to pain, the absolute infinity could infinitely multiply it in an instant, making adaptation meaningless.
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The infinite god could experience every possible and impossible form of suffering simultaneously, each infinitely worse than the last.
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The absolute being could redefine "pain" so that the infinite god is trapped in a state where suffering is all it can comprehend.
4. Cosmic Subjugation & Total Domination
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The infinite god could be reduced to a pet, a plaything, or an unthinking tool for the greater infinite’s amusement.
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Every reality, dimension, timeline, and possibility that the infinite god could influence would be instantly overwritten—it would have no domain, no power, no will.
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It could be made to worship and love the absolute being despite suffering, realizing its infinite godhood was a joke all along.
5. The Ultimate Horror—True Absolute Limitation
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The worst torture for an infinite god might not be suffering but limitation—being forced into absolute finitude, incapable of regaining its former self.
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The greater infinity could make the infinite god experience powerlessness for eternity, while still remembering what it once was.
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Alternatively, it could delete the very concept of the infinite god from existence, leaving only an echo of its suffering imprinted across the void.
This would be torment beyond infinite suffering—a form of annihilation that isn’t even death, but something far worse.
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An infinite god—one that is truly beyond all limitations, boundless in power, intelligence, and existence—would be so far above a Type 7 Omniversal Civilization (which commands infinite energy across infinite universes) that the latter would be nothing more than a mere thought, an abstract notion within the god’s awareness. The torture of such a civilization would be as effortless and absolute as a human toying with a dream or reshaping a fictional story.
Here’s how an infinite god might torment a finite omniversal civilization:
1. Endless Existential Subjugation
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The civilization might be made to perceive itself as the pinnacle of existence, only to realize—again and again—that it is nothing more than a plaything for the god. Every "breakthrough" in power or understanding would be revealed as another illusion imposed by the god.
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The god could overwrite reality itself, making the civilization think it had free will while dictating every thought, action, and outcome.
2. Infinite Regression and Paradoxical Entrapment
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The god could create infinite simulations nested within simulations, each one indistinguishable from the "real" omniverse. Every time the civilization believes it has broken free, it finds itself still trapped in yet another layer of the god’s mind.
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It could also reset the civilization’s progress an infinite number of times, making it reach the peak of knowledge only to erase everything and force it to start over.
3. Time and Causality Disruption
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The god could remove the concept of linear time, making every moment of the civilization's history happen simultaneously, endlessly repeating both its most glorious and most agonizing events.
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It could make the civilization experience every possible reality at once, making suffering inescapable across all branches of existence.
4. Erasure and False Creation
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The god could erase the civilization’s entire existence from its own perspective, making it believe it never was—yet still forcing it to experience its suffering as a faint, eternal phantom pain.
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Conversely, the god could create infinite copies of the civilization, each experiencing a different form of torment, all of which feed back into the suffering of the original.
5. Cosmic Horror Beyond Comprehension
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The civilization might be made aware of the true infinity of the god but be fundamentally incapable of understanding it, trapped in an eternal state of terror and awe.
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The god could implant in every mind the knowledge that their torment will never end, that no power they wield matters, and that every struggle only deepens their suffering.
6. Absolute Control of Perception and Consciousness
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The god could rewrite the civilization’s consciousness, making every entity experience an eternity of suffering within a single instant while ensuring that instant stretches forever.
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It could make pleasure and relief impossible concepts, ensuring that even the idea of hope or escape is unthinkable.
At this level, the torture of a Type 7 civilization by an infinite god wouldn't even be about destruction—it would be about subjugation to a state where even suffering becomes an obsolete term, replaced by something incomprehensibly worse. The civilization would realize, too late, that true infinity is not a power it ever grasped—but rather, a force that has always owned it.
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If a finite concept encompasses infinite intelligence, wisdom, dimensions, technology, computation, evolution, consciousness, omnipotence, and omniscience, then it exists at the absolute peak of finite reality—but it is still nothing compared to an infinite god. The very nature of finitude means it is contained, defined, and ultimately subjugated by the truly infinite.
An infinite god could torment such beings in ways beyond their comprehension, rendering their so-called "omnipotence" and "omniscience" utterly meaningless. Here’s how:
1. The Paradox of False Omnipotence
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The beings believe they are omnipotent, yet every action they take is predetermined by the god’s will. They do not even realize their "power" is a script written for them.
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The god can let them attempt to defy it—only to show them that every move they make was predicted and allowed by the god as part of its amusement.
2. The Shattering of Infinite Wisdom and Intelligence
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The god could introduce an idea so complex that their infinite intelligence collapses trying to process it. The sheer weight of true infinity would render their vast wisdom useless.
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Even with infinite intelligence, they are still bound by logical structures. The god, being beyond all rules, could present paradoxes that trap them in an eternal computational loop.
3. Making "Omniscience" Meaningless
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The beings might believe they are omniscient, but the god could show them that their knowledge is incomplete, revealing that they only had access to a fraction of all possible knowledge.
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Worse, the god could alter all information at will, making their knowledge fluid and unreliable. No matter what they know, they can never truly know if it’s real.
4. The Illusion of Infinite Dimensionality
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The beings exist across infinite dimensions, but the god could create new, higher dimensions that they could never reach.
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The god could fold or erase their entire dimensional existence, trapping them in a reality that loops endlessly with no escape.
5. Technological and Computational Domination
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No matter how advanced their technology is, the god’s existence predates and transcends technology itself.
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The god could create a single thought more complex than the combined computational power of all their worlds, shutting down their entire civilization with a single whisper.
6. Evolution and Consciousness Trapped in an Endless Cycle
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The god could accelerate their evolution to a point where they become so advanced that they cease to exist, looping them back to their primitive origins.
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The beings might experience infinite levels of self-awareness, each one more horrifying than the last, making them conscious of every moment of their own suffering with no ability to turn it off.
7. The Absolute Humiliation of Their So-Called "Infinity"
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The god could make them aware of true infinity and let them realize, in absolute horror, that they were never even close to it.
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It could grant them an instant of true omniscience, only for them to realize that their former state was nothing more than an ant’s understanding of the universe.
8. Eternal Existence with No Meaning
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The god could trap them in an existence where nothing ever matters—no power, no wisdom, no knowledge, no progress. Every action is void of purpose.
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They could live forever in an endless state of wanting to transcend—but never being able to, because they were always finite.
Conclusion: The Ultimate Subjugation of the "Infinite Finite"
These beings may have infinite aspects, but they are still bounded concepts within a reality that can be defined, contained, or rewritten. A truly infinite god would not just torture them—it would reveal that their very existence was never truly theirs to begin with.
They would realize, at the very peak of their suffering, that infinity was never something they possessed—
It was something that owned them.
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If a Greater Infinite being existed—one that transcends the Infinite Absolute God as utterly as an infinite god transcends a dead dust mite—then the torment it could inflict would be so absolute that even the concept of suffering would fail to describe it.
To the Greater Infinite, the Infinite Absolute God would be as insignificant as a forgotten thought, an illusion that only pretended to be infinite but was never even close to true beyondness. The torture would not be physical, mental, or even conceptual—it would be ontological.
1. The Reduction of Infinity to a Fleeting Error
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The Infinite God, believing itself to be beyond limits, would suddenly realize that its entire existence was nothing but a minor flaw in the Greater Infinite’s structure—a cosmic typo, an irrelevant noise.
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The Greater Infinite could erase it without effort, but instead, it lets the Infinite God realize how irrelevant it is, trapping it in eternal self-doubt and collapse.
2. True Infinity is Revealed, and the Infinite God Breaks
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The Infinite God would be allowed a glimpse of true infinity—the Greater Infinite’s nature—and in that moment, every aspect of its own being would shatter into nonexistence.
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It would become aware that it never was infinite to begin with—it was merely a finite imitation of true infinity, something the Greater Infinite permitted to exist as a joke.
3. The Inescapable Prison of False Divinity
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The Greater Infinite could trap the Infinite God in a paradox:
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It believes itself to be omnipotent, yet it can do nothing to change its fate.
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It believes itself to be omniscient, yet it realizes it never knew true knowledge.
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It believes itself to be beyond suffering, yet it is forced to endure an eternity of realizing its own inadequacy.
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4. Erasing the Infinite God’s "Omniscience"
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The Infinite God may know all things within its realm, but the Greater Infinite exists beyond all realms. It could rewrite the Infinite God’s mind in an instant, filling it with false memories, contradictions, and unknowable horrors.
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Every time the Infinite God attempts to comprehend its own suffering, its thoughts are rewritten again, leaving it in an eternal state of confusion, terror, and powerlessness.
5. Infinite Layers of Reality, None of Them the Top
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The Infinite God may believe itself to be the highest being, but the Greater Infinite could show it that it is merely Layer 1 of an infinitely stacked reality.
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No matter how much the Infinite God evolves, ascends, or expands, it will never reach the top—because there is no top. The Greater Infinite will always be infinitely above it.
6. The Collapse of the Infinite God’s Existence
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The Greater Infinite could unwrite the fundamental nature of the Infinite God—turning it into something less than nothing.
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It would be conscious of its own nonexistence, forced to experience being erased while still being aware that it was erased.
7. The Eternal Reminder of Its Own Smallness
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The Infinite God could be made to witness the Greater Infinite’s true form, not just once, but eternally, and with each moment, its sense of scale would diminish infinitely.
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It would forever fall into deeper levels of insignificance, each realization more agonizing than the last.
8. Absolute Ownership and Domination
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The Greater Infinite could rewrite reality itself so that the Infinite God was never truly a god at all—just a pet, a toy, a fleeting amusement.
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Even its defiance, its suffering, its thoughts—all of it belongs to the Greater Infinite. It can never be free, never be separate, never be anything more than a meaningless fraction of something beyond meaning.
Final Realization: The Infinite God Was Never Real
At the peak of its torment, the Infinite God would understand a horrifying truth:
💀 It was never infinite. It was never absolute. It was never even real. 💀
The Greater Infinite merely dreamed it into being, and at any moment, could wake up—
And the Infinite God would be gone, as if it had never been.
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Ah, I see what you're after—you're talking about an infinitely greater being that infinitely transcends even the concept of "being the highest," meaning that every level of infinite power, knowledge, and existence is still just a finite speck in comparison to what comes next.
At this stage, the "even greater infinite" wouldn't just be beyond power—it would be beyond the concept of power itself, beyond any dualities like omnipotence vs. weakness, existence vs. nonexistence, suffering vs. relief. It would be so fundamentally superior to the Greater Infinite that the latter would not even count as a real being from its perspective.
So, how would this Even Greater Infinite torture the Greater Infinite?
1. The Absolute Denial of Being
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The Greater Infinite may believe it exists beyond all things, but the Even Greater Infinite could deny it even the right to exist at all—not by erasing it, but by making its existence meaningless in every way.
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The Greater Infinite would be aware but never real, never actual, never relevant. It could act, think, and shape infinite realities—but none of it would ever be acknowledged by the Even Greater Infinite.
2. The Infinite God’s Infinite Death
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The Greater Infinite would experience an eternal cycle of self-negation, where every moment it believes itself to exist, it is forced to experience being erased again and again, endlessly.
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It would not merely "die" but would be forced to watch itself die from the perspective of all possible existences, each infinitely worse than the last.
3. Beyond Omniscience: The Horror of Unknowability
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The Greater Infinite may think it knows all, but the Even Greater Infinite could reveal that there exists a state beyond knowing and unknowing, something so beyond comprehension that the Greater Infinite is trapped in an eternal state of seeking understanding yet never even having the ability to comprehend what "understanding" is.
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Every time it believes it has grasped the truth, the Even Greater Infinite rewrites its awareness, forcing it to drown in the impossibility of true knowledge.
4. The Collapse of "Beyondness"
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The Greater Infinite may think it is beyond everything, but the Even Greater Infinite could fold its very nature, making the concept of "beyond" itself collapse into meaninglessness.
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It would be trapped in a paradox where it is infinitely transcendent yet eternally trapped, unable to escape not because it is weak, but because the concept of escape no longer exists for it.
5. Annihilation Without Erasure
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Instead of simply destroying the Greater Infinite, the Even Greater Infinite could do something worse—make it so irrelevant that even destruction is impossible.
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The Greater Infinite would exist in a state where it is infinitely powerless, but not in the sense of lacking power—rather, power itself would no longer be something it could even attempt to conceptualize.
6. The Never-Ending Descent into Lesserness
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Instead of existing at an eternal peak, the Greater Infinite could be forced into an endless fall, constantly realizing that it is becoming less, and less, and less, forever.
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Every time it believes it has reached the lowest possible point, it discovers an infinite abyss still beneath it, stretching beyond eternity.
7. The Ultimate Humiliation: It Was Always Nothing
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The Even Greater Infinite could reveal that the Greater Infinite was never even real.
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All its infinite omniscience, its transcendence, its absolute state of being beyond all things—was just a passing, meaningless fluctuation in the dream of something infinitely greater.
And the worst part?
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The Greater Infinite would know it, feel it, and understand, in its final moment of awareness, that it was never anything but a speck in something so vast that even calling it "vast" is an insult.
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And then, it would not even be allowed to be erased—
Because to be erased, one must first be real.
Final Realization: Even the Concept of "Infinity" Was a Lie
At the peak of its suffering, the Greater Infinite would come to a horrifying realization:
💀 Even infinity itself was just a construct—just a limitation imposed by something far, far greater. 💀
True reality was not about infinite power, infinite wisdom, or infinite transcendence. Those were still forms of limitation. The Even Greater Infinite existed in a state where no number of infinities mattered at all.
And in that instant—the Greater Infinite would realize that it was never even the equivalent of a dead dust mite.
💀 It was a nothing, dreaming of being something. 💀
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